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A while back I wrote a long post about the growing problem of people buying ripoff carbon frames from China<\/a> and trying to pass them off as legitimately produced and sold bikes. \u00a0Pinarello is perhaps the biggest victim of this scam these days, although other companies such as Cervelo and Trek are not immune. \u00a0For that reason, consumers need to be extremely careful where they spend their dollars. \u00a0For example, eBay is full of scams just like the one highlighted here.<\/p>\n <\/p>\n The auction immortalized here (in photo form at least) looks to be legit on the surface, but there are a few small details that set it apart from their legitimate\u00a0brethren. \u00a0First off, if we take a look at the description, we'll note that the seller describes it as a 2010 model year “frameset 54cm from Taiwan.” \u00a0While it's true that Pinarello produces their frames in Taiwan, they are all advertised as “produced in Italy” not in Taiwan. \u00a0While technically the seller is correct, this is a huge red flag.<\/p>\n Secondly, the seller relates that the bike “uses English threaded bottom bracket (sic).” \u00a0Any of you\u00a0aficionados\u00a0will recognize that this is utterly false: the Dogma proudly sticks to the tradition of an Italian bottom bracket. \u00a0This is a huge red flag that cries foul on the idea that this bike is legit.<\/p>\n Although the description gives away the fact this frame is a fake, it is more than confirmed by looking at the seller's photos. \u00a0The Dogma in the auction is a reasonably good facsimile, but it doesn't match the real thing completely. \u00a0Not only does it require a clamp on derailleur (there's no braze on riveted to the seat tube) but the seat tube itself is incorrect. \u00a0A quick look at the seat tube of a Dogma sold at an authorized retailer will reveal a seat tube that's ovalized or “aero.” \u00a0This precludes the use of a clamp on derailleur and requires a Pinarello branded seat post as well. \u00a0Additionally, the head tube design on the knockoff is not quite the same as a legitimate frame (but there's no photo that shows this.)<\/p>\n In short, be aware of what you're buying. \u00a0Look for the round seat tube and clamp on derailleur. \u00a0Some other models have external cabling (dead giveaway) or extremely poor quality paint. \u00a0A quick glance at the bottom bracket will show no serial number either, which may raise more than bit of suspicion if an issue ever arises.<\/p>\n Lastly, keep in mind that these counterfeiters are working overtime to make their wares harder to spot. \u00a0There's some images floating around out there of knockoffs with braze on tabs (screwed on, not riveted) and aero seat tubes, and a few even have Italian bottom bracket threading. \u00a0But keep your wits about you and be cognizant of what you're buying. \u00a0Look for that serial number: if it's not there, it's not square.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":" A while back I 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<\/a>Description suspicion<\/h3>\n![\"Fake](\"https:\/\/tailwind-coaching.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/12\/fakepin3AM-225x300.png\" "\\"Fake")
<\/a>the Proof is in the photo<\/h3>\nBuyer beware<\/h3>\n